Editing The Pen Addict 501/transcript (section)

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'''Brad:''' Yeah. Cause I kind of, kind of bore out before. It's like we had lots of, the funny thing is, and the reason why this is not a surprise anymore is because we get a lot of pilot metropolitan love. And then at the same time we get pilot Namiki Milky way galaxy love, you know, a lot of zeros were added onto the pilot metropolitan. Yeah. And this whole range that pilot has captured this, this brand loyalty because they are, they have this uncanny ability.

'''Myke:''' What I will say though, is in doing the episode, I did not recognize that pilot was being mentioned to a level of two to one over the next most popular brand. Basically agree.

'''Brad:''' Agree. Like I recall Lamy, Twisby and Hobonichi were my big takeaways from doing it live. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' And, uh, not, I definitely caught the pilots. You know what? There was a lot of, and we'll go through this in a minute is, um, the, the decimos and vanishing points. So that in retrospect, there were a lot of mentions of that. So Jacob continues one notable difference from the favorite fountain pen brands slides from the Slack surveys, the brand Parker. Parker is not on that list and is neck to neck with sailor Lamy and Twisby in this list. Right. And he does mention it's difficult to compare since the surveys were so different, but this is people theoretically mentioning one product and Parker came up a lot. And I was kind of replaying this back in my head. What Parker got mentioned a lot besides, I think the jotter was a couple of times and maybe like a random dual fold or random vector. Was it mostly the jotter? I would even have to go back. I can look on the spreadsheet that Jacob sent, but I'm a little bit flummoxed. I guess maybe the Parker 51 mentioned Parker back. I guess there was a lot of nostalgia Parker mentions, which is good.

'''Myke:''' In the vintage stuff, I feel like we got the most.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. And that's where the data from this list would separate from the previous list. Yeah. Right. We had, we have more of a, a memorable type of question, right? Like what is important or, you know, meaningful to you in the product. And Parker landed in that category a lot, which I think is pretty cool. 96 total brands were mentioned. Myke. Eight Lamy Safaris. Six TWSBI Ecos. Eight Pilot Vanishing Porn or Decimos. So those were like the individual specific pen, like the Lamy Safari 8, you know, TWSBI Ecos six, you know, as opposed to like a lot of TWSBI's and a lot of Lamy's were mentioned, but those were the individual pens that were mentioned the most. The top five categories as Jacob designated them. Fountain pens were mentioned 150 times. Paper 41 times. Ink 13 times. Mechanical pencil 10 times. Rollerball 10 times. The paper number shocks me. I guess that was probably a lot of cheaters too.

'''Myke:''' They are most definitely the people on the bad list. Ink and paper. I think the only time we ever got like paper is my favorite thing is when we had a couple of people who were like making the general statement about paper in general.

'''Brad:''' Well, and the Hobonichis, like the Hobonichis. I guess, yes. Direct paper.

'''Myke:''' Yeah. For some reason I didn't register as paper in my brain. I was thinking of that as journal, but obviously that's paper. Yes. But I would say a vast majority of paper and ink was tied with a pen or of some kind. Yes. The people on the bad list, as you very rightly pointed out. Not that I would say that.

'''Brad:''' The Rule Breakers. The Rule Breakers. Yeah. That's a better name. Mm-hmm. But yeah. Interesting. I think the fountain pen, I think even... I see why the fountain pen is a big category here, but to have the separation from say like rollerball, like gel pen didn't even make the list or ballpoint. Mechanical pencil 10, rollerball 10, fountain pen 150.

'''Brad:''' Pretty interesting to me. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that and if there's anything to say about that. I guess a lot of times the price point investment has a different level of meaningfulness sometimes, even though you don't really draw... In our day-to-day life, we don't really necessarily draw those conclusions. We talk about you can get just as much joy from a $3 pen as a $300 pen, but if you're saying, hey, what's my most meaningful memorable pen? Well, I think the fountain pen ends up being an outlier to that specific answer to that question.

'''Brad:''' So, I don't know. I think it's interesting. But yeah, this is cool. This is great stuff from Jacob. We'll have this spreadsheet shared in here if anyone wants to poke around it. It lists all these specifics. You open it up and in the first one, it's got the J. Herban ink and the specific products are all listed in this list.

'''Myke:''' This is an incredible amount of work. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' I don't know. I'll ask him how long it took him next time I see him on stream because there had to be a lot of pausing unless you're really fast at comprehending and typing. Yeah. So, yeah. It would be interesting. Yeah. The chat wants to know, is there an ink winner? I don't know. There was only like 13 individual inks in a category.

'''Myke:''' I'd be surprised if there was more than one mentioned.

'''Brad:''' I think it was just a few random things. There were several Orochizukus mentioned. So, I think out of the 13 inks, I bet half of that's Orochizuku of some color. Yep.

'''Myke:''' Which does not surprise me at all. Mm-mm. Yeah, for my recollection. Actually, maybe my surprise would be that Robert Oster wouldn't be in that contention. Yeah. Because it's similar to the way I think about Orochizuku is performs well and is a color for everyone. Right, right, right. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I appreciate the work that Ben Bork did for that. It was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' It was really, really good. So, we're not done with episode 500 stuff yet, Myke. We have promised. We have promised to answer the question ourselves. But not before we hear from our good friends at Squarespace.