Editing The Pen Addict 719/transcript (section)

== Discussion on pen color combinations and preferences ==


'''Myke Hurley:''' Yeah. I'm bummed out that I bought that pink and green one now. I prefer these. I'm not going to get another two. Right. But I prefer these ones to the, the was like Alpine and, and they call it that. Flamingo was one. Flamingo and Pine. Pine.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Which like they're not, they're not, what are we doing? It's not related. They're great pens. I said how good the Pine, the Pine is like legitimately an amazing pen.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Well, they're just, as I said at the time, they're just related because pink and green work well together, which is why they're doing it again. This is another pink and green pen. Like they're just completely different shades, but pink and green is just like a classic combo. Yeah. And yeah, I think these look amazing. It's funny that like one of the key things that they've done is like the whole reason I bought those two pens was just to switch the sections and the body. But yeah, I think these are fantastic. I say hats off to Lamy. I think they've crushed it.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Totally. Totally. So yeah, I'll get these at some point. Like I literally just got my neon pens in and just inked up my neon yellow again. We'll talk about that in a second. I'm not done talking about this. Um, so Lamy, to your point about the release time, they've been on this cycle for a few years now where before it was just kind of like the one let's really lean into the special release of the all-star and the safari early in the year. And that was kind of our, our big push. And now they do each of those like two or three times a year. Right. So this one just dropped out of the blue. Um, there'll be another one probably in the fall. There'll probably be a safari during the summer. Yep. Right. They're doing a little bit more, which, you know, there's a balance there that they need to manage. Right. Like I, I, you know, I don't want to see too much and have like the sailor problems of the past where, you know, it's every week, five new sailors. Right. You have to chill a little bit.

'''Myke Hurley:''' The prices of a safari though, or like, you know, it's less of an issue than, than when they're 200, $300 pro gears compared to like 50 bucks or whatever.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I agree. I agree. Um, so yeah, these are great. All-star killing it. Um, this, this might put me on team all-star, which is crazy to say.

'''Myke Hurley:''' No, that would you, what was wrong with you?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I'm not, I'll never do that. Like, uh, I, I, yeah, the, the aluminum barrels are never going to be my favorite over the safari, but these are, these rule.

'''Myke Hurley:''' You think they, you figure they've just got their like forecasting really down? Cause it's like, it's a lot, right? To, to keep doing these.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' I, I guess it's been several years. It was, this was pre Mitsubishi acquisition where they started. They started ramping. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. I don't know. Um, one bonus or probably one thing that they're thinking about is they do have those flagship stores now. Um, so I don't know if they're, and they do have other traditional retail displays, right? They're a little bit broader company. They're like, no, that's a good point.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Worst comes to worst. They can put them in retail and these things will work in retail and because they have that like that Lamy are everywhere. Yeah. Um, where some of the other companies doing these kinds of things don't necessarily have that, that reach.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Mm. Mm. Mm. Last thing on this one. And it's just more of a question. So they've done what? Six, four all-stars, two safaris, zero ink so far this year, which I think is interesting. Um, they're, they don't do a ton of ink, but there's usually one or two inks kind of dabbling in here. This would have been a good time for their first shimmer ink, um, to go with these, this pen. Yeah. But I mean, that's probably a lot. I mean, I get that's a lot. It's complicated.

'''Myke Hurley:''' It's much more complicated. Yeah. I bet. Like just managing that kind of inventory than these. Yeah.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' But like pine was the pine and flamingo were the perfect candidates for new, new ink colors. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Those are, those would be solid ink colors. And we just haven't seen any yet. Not, I don't think that's a big deal. I'm just now like, okay, we've seen a new ink by now in collaboration with one of the pen releases. So maybe that's just not their thing anymore. Their inks are so cheap. There's, I don't know. It's probably just not profitable.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Maybe they just got, they've just been, they've had enough, you know, like every time they released an ink, it just became a controversy over the last few years. That's true. No more ink.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' No more ink for you. You know who doesn't do fountain pen inks?

'''Myke Hurley:''' Who?

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Uniball. Mitsubishi.

'''Myke Hurley:''' Oh, really? Yeah. They don't have fountain pens. But like, you know, the petrol and the purple. Dark lilac. Dark lilac. Dark lilac. That was it. They just became a whole thing. And it's like, if I was at Lamy, I would be like, for the time being, let's not do this. Because every ink that we release is going to be scrutinized to a level that's just like past logic.

'''Brad Dowdy:''' Where was the dark lilac? Was it New York Times or Wall Street Journal? It made it into one of those. It was like, that's not the shine Lamy was looking for necessarily. But the disco is the shine that they're looking for.

'''Myke Hurley:''' I just think if I was there, I would be really hesitant to putting out any kind of ink product right now.