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== Mini Gift Guide Completion ==


'''Myke:''' This is really cool. So that was the mini gift guide. I think there's some good stuff. No, no, no, you didn't go. Oh, sorry. Platinum 3776. Yeah, it is. That's for some reason, I just put the Mark one and the tactile turn together and then thought it was done. Yep. If I was going to give somebody a fountain pen to buy, if you don't have one of these, you should have one. The issue with the Platinum 3776 for me is by and large, the colors and designs are really boring. So like if you can find one of the more colorful ones or the special edition-y ones, even stuff like the Nicely Last and stuff, which is what I have, where it's like demonstrator and it's purple and it's got like a ridge design on it. Because typically they're just like boring, standard acrylic colors. So if you can find one that's a little bit more interesting to you, then go for it. Even if it's just like you see like a red one and you're just like, oh, I like red. Like, you know, like the Chartres Blue or something.

'''Myke:''' But ultimately you will not find a better nib. You just want, in any price category, Platinum's nibs are just the best. I've come around to this in the last couple of years. I mean, you stack it against anything. Like you will not get a better nib for, I don't know, they go between 170 to 250, depending on what you get. You're just not going to get a better nib than what you will find in that pen. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' And to kind of put a bow on like the thought process beside choosing this pen, I think a lot of people who are getting into this price range, into this style of pen, into this type of nib, generally look at Pilot and Sailor first. And I think both you and I over the past few years realize that Platinum 3776 should probably be like your first entry point into that price range. Or at least should be

'''Myke:''' in the conversation more. Yeah.

'''Brad:''' Like don't discount this, how great this pen is. Like for me, my hangup was always the lightness of it. Like it is a lightweight pen, right? Like Pilots, like acrylic barrels have a little bit more density to them and Sailor's, I mean, and this is slight, they're all lightweight pens, but this is a lightweight pen and it took me a while. I was like, is this really worth the money? And it turns out, yeah, like it's really, really great. I have the Chartres Blue Rhodium Trim UEF nib is one of my all-time favorite pens and I really only acquired that like in the past year,

'''Myke:''' year or two. Yeah, mine is the Nice Lelass with a 14 karat gold broad nib and that nib is just, it's the best stock nib I've ever used.

'''Brad:''' Yep. Yep. All right, Myke, now you can wrap up our mini gift guide.

'''Myke:''' Now the mini gift guide is complete. I hope that you'll find something in there for either yourself or to buy a pen addict in your life. To wrap up this episode, let's do a couple of Ask TPA questions. Sounds good. And this one, this is like an ultimate gift guide one that comes from Fibber. True. If someone offered to you to gift you any pen of historical importance, what or whose pen would you select?

'''Brad:''' You go first because I like your answer and mine is, mine is not as specific.

'''Myke:''' I really racked my brain on this one. Yeah. And I was thinking about like important things in human history. That's where I was going to. Like, you know, I've got to come onto the show and I've got to sound really important or do I go like sentimental? No, you know what?

'''Myke:''' Let's take it as if I'm actually being asked this question like it's a real possibility to me. I'm going to want something that is important to me and the thing that I care about most. I want the pen that Steve Jobs would have used when he signed to return to Apple. Like he would have had to sign a contract with Apple to come back I want that pen. Whatever that pen was that he used to sign that document that put them on the course to where they are now. Like that's what I would want.

'''Brad:''' Yeah. See, that's cool and I still like I couldn't come up with like the singular one event type of pen but where I came at it from was, hey, you know, some of the people that I enjoy their work say, you know, like Joy Division and Ian Curtis and one of the pens he used to write his lyrics in his notebook. He used just a basic, he used just basically, essentially a found ballpoint to do most of his written work or a marker that Jean-Michel Basquiat used to write in his early sketchbooks. Like just one of those types of pens that a creative person that I love used to create the thing that I ended up loving, right, as opposed to like the specific event pen was where like my brain got stuck. I could never come up with a one specific thing. So yeah, like I would like to have like an artist or some type of creator, a tool that they use to create the thing that I ended up, that ended up making a difference in my life, right, that I like was really passionate about or cared about a lot. So it would be, you know, like an Ian Curtis pen that, you know, he wrote some of the lyrics and like something like that would be really, really cool.

'''Myke:''' That would be really nice and it would be meaningful for you. You could like put them on the wall with the album or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

'''Myke:''' All right, and Michelle asks, in Back to the Future 2, Marty stands in the rain and gets a mysterious letter. It's from Doc writing to him from 1885. Marty reads the letter in the pouring rain but the ink doesn't run. Were there any waterproof inks in 1885?

'''Brad:''' Absolutely. And actually, they were probably primary waterproof inks because that's where iron gall inks came from. From the trees and the nuts falling and the boiling of the water to turn the raw materials into inks that then presented a permanence onto the page. So, I would say, you know, waterproof inks for at least documentation, right? Any water-based dye ink that people have made for thousands and thousands and thousands of years is going to exist, right? People can, you know, people could just, you know, grab a stick and smash some leaves and write with it. It's going to be, you know, just a water-based ink and it's going to run for waterproofness. but once people discovered that certain materials could be turned into ink and then that lead into permanence, yeah, 100%. So, that was probably very commonplace, especially for any type of writing or documentation. Books, you know, official paperwork, anything is all going to be written in some type of iron gall ink. You just hope, like, aside from the movie, you hope long-term that there's different like acidities with paper and those types of inks that hopefully don't destroy things but as far as ink permanence goes, yeah, 100%. That's a real thing.

'''Myke:''' Wow. Well, there you go.

'''Brad:''' Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

'''Myke:''' You just made it onto an IMDb trivia page or something. No,

'''Brad:''' no. I think that's pretty straightforward. Like, any nut-based iron gall inks are going to be permanent and those were essentially, like, boiled over a...

'''Myke:''' You're a nut-based iron gall inks. Yeah, you are. No, you're... Oh, dear. Well, that's it for this week's episode. Yeah. If you want to send in a question of your own, just a note, tweet with the hashtag AskTPA or question mark AskTPA. If you're listening to this at the right time, happy Thanksgiving if that's something that you celebrate. We'll be back next time. You can find us in a few different places. You can go to relay.fm slash penaddict slash four, eight, nine to get links and information about today's episode and everything we spoke about in the gift guide. You can... What else can people do, Brad? Ah, they can go and follow you on Instagram, you're penaddict. They can go to penaddict.com, spokedesign.com and twitch.tv slash penaddict where you'll find Brad streaming multiple times a week. Brad is dowdyism on Twitter. I am imike, I-M-Y-K-E. Thank you to Holo for the support of this show and to you for listening. We'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye, Brad. 

'''Brad:''' Goodbye, Brad.

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