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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l493&quot;&gt;Line 493:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah, yeah. We&amp;#039;re thinking about those types of things for the future, for sure. We didn&amp;#039;t want to confuse people for the Kickstarter. Sure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yeah, yeah. We&amp;#039;re thinking about those types of things for the future, for sure. We didn&amp;#039;t want to confuse people for the Kickstarter. Sure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; I mean, but, like, just sell them on the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;NOC &lt;/del&gt;website, right? Like, those lookouts that are in the same colors of the bag. Right. So, people could just buy their, like, little lookout and pop it straight in there. Yep. But I actually think that&#039;s a good decision, right? To make it a little bit more, make the bag what you make it, rather than this is the pen addict&#039;s bag. Right. Because the pen addict&#039;s bag would just be, like, 16 brass towns, right? With some straps on the back. And, you know, it&#039;s like a fishing vest that straps around the front. You know? That&#039;s what the pen addict&#039;s bag would be. But luckily, if not made that. Yep.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Myke Hurley:&#039;&#039;&#039; I mean, but, like, just sell them on the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nock &lt;/ins&gt;website, right? Like, those lookouts that are in the same colors of the bag. Right. So, people could just buy their, like, little lookout and pop it straight in there. Yep. But I actually think that&#039;s a good decision, right? To make it a little bit more, make the bag what you make it, rather than this is the pen addict&#039;s bag. Right. Because the pen addict&#039;s bag would just be, like, 16 brass towns, right? With some straps on the back. And, you know, it&#039;s like a fishing vest that straps around the front. You know? That&#039;s what the pen addict&#039;s bag would be. But luckily, if not made that. Yep.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yep. So, we wanted to leave those options open and not just totally tell people what to do by putting that in, right? That&amp;#039;s your dictating how, you know, we&amp;#039;re dictating how people use the bag overall. But we want you to be able to do the things you need to do on the inside of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Yep. So, we wanted to leave those options open and not just totally tell people what to do by putting that in, right? That&amp;#039;s your dictating how, you know, we&amp;#039;re dictating how people use the bag overall. But we want you to be able to do the things you need to do on the inside of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Good work, Ed. Amazing work. Seriously. Like, I was very surprised by how good it was. And now I&amp;#039;m unsurprised. Right. Let&amp;#039;s talk about the production a little bit. Okay. So, how are these things being made? Because this is different for you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Myke Hurley:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Good work, Ed. Amazing work. Seriously. Like, I was very surprised by how good it was. And now I&amp;#039;m unsurprised. Right. Let&amp;#039;s talk about the production a little bit. Okay. So, how are these things being made? Because this is different for you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes. This is different for us. So, we found in the, to continue &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;NOC &lt;/del&gt;as a business, we had to have outside manufacturing help. We&#039;ve tried hiring people to ramp up quantities to build inventory and have not been successful at that. There&#039;s a large gap in what we would need to hire and what we&#039;d be comfortable doing. Like, we would have to, we, there&#039;s basically two choices for us to continue this business. It&#039;s become a manufacturing facility or contract manufacturing facility. Jeff and I don&#039;t want to run a 20 person manufacturing shop. That&#039;s the difference it would take for us to get to where we need to be. That&#039;s a massive investment to have the facility, the machinery, the people to accomplish that type of thing. That&#039;s not to say we would never do that. Like, Tom Ben does that. You know, I talk about them all the time. Rickshaw does that. They make their, they have large factories, lots of employees, lots of equipment, and lots of investment in building that. That&#039;s money we don&#039;t have. So the other option, if we&#039;re going to grow this company, is to contract with someone who already has that. They have the facilities, they have the capabilities. And we&#039;ve talked several times over the years how we&#039;ve never been able to find that person. We&#039;ve either had to fail them on price or we&#039;ve had to fail them on quality. And keeping it in the U.S. is the only option for us. So finding a U.S. manufacturer to tick all these boxes has been a challenge for us. We finally found someone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Brad Dowdy:&#039;&#039;&#039; Yes. This is different for us. So, we found in the, to continue &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nock &lt;/ins&gt;as a business, we had to have outside manufacturing help. We&#039;ve tried hiring people to ramp up quantities to build inventory and have not been successful at that. There&#039;s a large gap in what we would need to hire and what we&#039;d be comfortable doing. Like, we would have to, we, there&#039;s basically two choices for us to continue this business. It&#039;s become a manufacturing facility or contract manufacturing facility. Jeff and I don&#039;t want to run a 20 person manufacturing shop. That&#039;s the difference it would take for us to get to where we need to be. That&#039;s a massive investment to have the facility, the machinery, the people to accomplish that type of thing. That&#039;s not to say we would never do that. Like, Tom Ben does that. You know, I talk about them all the time. Rickshaw does that. They make their, they have large factories, lots of employees, lots of equipment, and lots of investment in building that. That&#039;s money we don&#039;t have. So the other option, if we&#039;re going to grow this company, is to contract with someone who already has that. They have the facilities, they have the capabilities. And we&#039;ve talked several times over the years how we&#039;ve never been able to find that person. We&#039;ve either had to fail them on price or we&#039;ve had to fail them on quality. And keeping it in the U.S. is the only option for us. So finding a U.S. manufacturer to tick all these boxes has been a challenge for us. We finally found someone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; And the first thing that they&amp;#039;re doing for us is getting our retail going. So we&amp;#039;re going to be in retail hopefully by October.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Brad Dowdy:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; And the first thing that they&amp;#039;re doing for us is getting our retail going. So we&amp;#039;re going to be in retail hopefully by October.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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